How to use find that rose
Each variety is listed with the codes of the Grower(s) who are offering the variety for sale during this season. The Growers codes are in the form of three letters and one number. The number reflects the type of Grower. For growers full details see the A-Z of growers.
HAVING SEARCHED THE VARIETIES THE EASIEST WAY TO PROCEED IS TO MAKE A NOTE OF THE GROWERS CODES, AS THERE IS NO CLICK THROUGH FACILITY FROM THE GROWERS CODES TO THE GROWER SECTION. HAVING MADE A NOTE OF THE CODES THEN CONSULT THE GROWERS SECTION FOR ALL THE GROWERS INFORMATION. THIS INCLUDES WAYS TO CONTACT THOSE YOU SELECT E.G. WEBSITES, ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS.
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Growers Classifications
- RETAIL These growers specialise in supplying direct to the general public.
- RETAIL/WHOLESALE
- MAINLY WHOLESALE These growers base their production on supplying retail outlets, but when possible help members of the public.
- STRICTLY WHOLESALE These growers supply direct to retail outlets, and are unable to help with requests from the public.
The varieties are listed with their selling name/trade name and, where applicable and known to the Editor the registered name in brackets. Most modern roses do have two names. By law the International Registered name must appear alongside the selling name when such varieties are offered for sale. The advantage of International Registered names is it allows Breeders/Growers to give an attractive selling name to such varieties when grown and offered for sale in different countries.
Rose Introduction Dates
The 31st Edition was the first to show introduction dates for the roses.These
introduction dates are shown in brackets after the name of the roses. The
information has been obtained from various sources, and the accuracy is
not guaranteed, as not all agree! As a guide the following letter indicate
C -prior to date circa
C – after the date Century
E – early P prior
? – either there is no date information available as the variety is a historic
variety, or research has not as yet found a date!
UK In some cases the date maybe introduction date in another Country and also a UK introduction date is shown.
Colour Group Codes
For simplicity a number has been alocated to cover basic colours to be found in roses. Some varieties are shown with a combination of numbers, where these are separated by “/” this indicates bi-coloured or distinct mixed coloured vararieties. Those shown with a “+” are a blend of colours.
General Colour Key Guide
1 White/Near White
2 Light Yellow/Cream/Ivory/Buff
3 Medium Yellow
4 Deep Yellow/Gold
5 Yellow Blends
6 Soft Apricot/Apricot (pure and blended)
7 Deep Apricot/Copper/Bronze
8 Orange/Vermillion/Orange to Scarlet
9 Light/Soft Pinks
10 Medium Pinks
11 Pink Blends
12 Salmon/Coral/Pinks/Peach
13 Deep Pinks/Light & Bright Reds/Light Crimson
14 Medium Reds
15 Dark Reds
16 Lilacs/Mauves/Purple/Lavender/Magenta
17 Russet/Brown Shades
Fragrance Categories
after the colour reference there will in most cases be a letter. This indicate fragrance
p- Very fragrant, or exceptional fragrance
k – Fragrant, a definate fragrance
v – Scented, a moderate fragrance
F- There is no evidence that there is any discerable fragrance
G – Research so far undertaken has not revealed what fragrance if any, these vararieties have.
Key
| (a) (b) (c) (Ce) (CH) (D) (E) (e) (f) (G) (Ga) GSR (gc) |
Alba Bourbon Climber/Rambler Centifolia China Damask Eglanteria “English Roses” (1)* Floribunda.Cluster flowered bush Garnette Gallica Gold Standard Roses. Awarded to varieties (mainly recent introductions) tested for exceptional resistance to disease. Awards made between 2006-20l8. Ground Cover Hybrid Tea/Large flowered bush Hybrid Musk Hybrid Perpertual Miniatures Moss Miniature/Patio Climbers Miniature – floribunda Noisette “Patio” (2)* Portland Polyantha Rugosa & Rugosa Hybrids Rose Of The Year with date Shrub roses (3)* Sweet Briars Species |
In Growers Details
| Std 1/2Std 1/4Std P.Std M.Std M.Clb W.Std Spe.Std |
Standards Half Standards Quarter Standards Patio Standards Miniature Standards Patio Climbers Weeping Standards Speciality Standards |
General Codes
| a.k.a p.k.a |
Also known as Previously known as |
Notes on Keys
(1)* This is not an official classification, but is widely used in the U.K. for a selection of modern shrub roses.
(2)* This is not an official classification, but is widely used in the U.K.
(3)* This covers a wide selection of Shrub roses, which have not been allocated other specific classifications.
NOTES RELEVANT IN THE VARIETY SECTIONTO PAGES 5-??
1 Growers have individual terms for describing varieties, which when
produced on a Standard stem have a ‘weeping’ or ‘cushion’ habit. These
are produced by using lax shrub or ground cover varieties. In catalogues
these are normally shown as Weeping standards or Speciality
Standards The height of stems used by individual growers may differ
2 Canary Bird and Rosa Xanthina. Canary Bird is probably a cross between
R. Hugonis and R. Xanthina. R. Xanthina is similar in colour to Canary Bird
(i.e. yellow), but whereas Canary Bird is single R. Xanthina is double. Many
nurseries in error list Canary Bird as the same as R. Xanthina. For the
purpose of this booklet both varieties are listed under Canary Bird.
3 Weeping standard and Miniature Standard, the same explanation as
given in note number (1).
4 Climbing Roses: Most modern climbers are repeat flowering, and like old
ramblers are not available in bush form. Where a climber has developed
from an established bush variety, it is known as a Climbing ‘sport’. Such
climbers are shown under the bush variety of that name. When pruning
a Climbing sport be careful not to cut it back too hard, or the plant may
revert to a bush.
5 Standard Roses: Many different types of Standard roses are available,
and terms used can be a little confusing. Budding a bush, shrub, ground
cover or Climbing/rambler onto a Standard Stem creates standards.
When it comes to the height of stems used for each Edition it becomes
more and more difficult to classify the difference between what some
growers call Standards others might call Half standards. In general
Growers are using shorter stems than before. So there can be
considerable variation in heights of all forms of Standards so
you are strongly recommended to seek further information from
your supplier. As a rough guide to the heights. Weeping Standards
122–152cm (4′-5′) Most Speciality Standards will be at the height
for Standards (mostly created from bush roses) also termed as Full
Standards used to be 99-114cm (3’3″-3’9″. However more and more are
now being produced on 80cm stems by wholesales it particular for Garden
Centres as they are easier to transport. Half standards 76-84 cm (2’6″-
2’9″). Quarter Standards, Miniature Weeping standards and Patio
Standards can vary between 46-61cm (1’6″-2′); Miniature Standards
31-61cm (1″-18″)
6 Rosa Mulliganii and Longicuspis. Some concern has arisen in the trade
regarding the variety listed in this country as Longicuspis: an authority is
of the opinion that the variety purported to be Longicuspis is in fact Rosa
Mulliganii.
7 Jenny Duval. In various editions of Find That Rose this variety has been
offered for sale. For this Edition no one is listing Jenny Duval. However
for interested readers the variety Jenny Duval is believed to be the same
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as President de Sèze. There are still some who claim they are different
varieties.
8 Rosa Gigantes. This variety is not grown but is referred to in connection
with Cooper’s Burmese, which is closely related.
9 The Ground Cover Flower Carpet varieties are registered under a trade
name of Flower Carpet with the selling name attached. For the purpose
of this book they can be found under the following names in alphabetic
order Amber Flower Carpet, Coral Flower Carpet, Gold Flower Carpet, Pink
Flower Carpet, Pink Supreme Flower Carpet, Red Flower Carpet, Rosy
Flower Carpet, Scarlet Flower Carpet, Sunshine Flower Carpet, Sunset
Flower Carpet and White Flower Carpet.
10 In addition to Flower Carpet varieties, more and more Breeders are using
special terms for collection of varieties for marketing purposes. You will
find for instance varieties of various colours Castle (floribunda) Many of
these are listed under the colour of the variety. Castle roses such as
Cream Castle known as Perfect Day. Then there are Hit Patio roses e.g.
Pink Hit, but many have additional more attractive selling names. If you
are trying to trace roses where you are uncertain of the selling name then
make a particular note of the International Registered name which in this
book appears in brackets after the variety. Also roses can have different
selling names in other counties. So if you see a roes you like in another
country do take on the registered name. It may not be available in the U.K.
for various reasons but it is worth a try.
11 ‘Comte De Chambord’ and ‘Mdm Knorr’. The Editor has been concerned of
what appears to be some misconception in certain Directories, which state
that these roses are the same. However research undertaken and historic
books say otherwise. The Editor also in unaware of any U.K. Grower listing
a variety called ‘Mdm Knorr’ The Editor discussed this matter some years
ago with the late Peter Beales (who was highly qualified to comment on
older varieties). Peter believed that the variety listed in the U.K. under
‘Comte de Chambord’ is true to that name. Peter himself stated that some
years ago he acquired some buds of a rose called ‘Mdm Knorr’ from
America and concluded that when he realised it was very much like ‘Comte
de Chambord’, but far less healthy, he dropped it from his firms list. He
was of the opinion that America grows ‘Mdm Knorr’ and the U.K. grows
‘Comte de Chambord’
12 ‘Jacques Cartier’ and ‘Marchesa Boccella’. At the suggestion of a Grower
that these roses were in fact the same variety the Editor has done some
research. Whilst two U.K. Growers have listed in the past the variety as
‘Marchesa Boccella’ this is in fact the name used in America for the variety
most commonly listed as ‘Jacques Cartier’ in the U.K..
13 ‘Sophia’ originally had two names but was introduced into the U.K. as ‘Solo
Moi’ some years ago Poulsen the Breeder lost the right to use ‘Solo Mio’
and as such any Grower could face a fine of several hundred pounds if
they use this name. This just illustrates the difficulties faced by Grower in
the U.K. when EU rules get in the way!
14 ‘That’s Jazz’ , ‘Night Light’ is sometimes promoted by the Breeder
(Poulsen) to Growers/stockiest that this is a Courtyard/Patio Climber.
The Editor who has personal experience with these varities emphises that
these are normal traditional sized climber which can grow to (360-420 cm)
12′-14′, That means they need plenty of space. The advantage of the true
Courtyard and Patio Climber is that where space is limited and also have
masses of SMALL blooms covering the plant. In general Poulsen promote
through Garden Centre all their climbers as Courtyard climbers
15 Sometimes you will find that there is more than one rose by the same
name, usually you can identify them by the international registered name
in brackets. A good example is Abracadabra. There are two roses by that
name both bred by Kordes. You can also get new roses which have the
same name as a previous variety such as Charles Dickens who has had
three roses named after him. It is not ideal, and you should be careful
not to assume that a rose by the name you seek is the same variety;
particularly when looking for old varieties.
E. & O.E. Although every care has been taken to minimize possible errors,
it is regretted that the Editor cannot accept any responsibility for such
mistakes. ‘Find That Rose!’ has been produced by the Editor from
information submitted by the growers listed, together with additional
information in her possession.